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Wisconsin Fishing Discussion

Reduction in and/or Denial of Lake Access Issues

7/12/18 @ 10:29 AM
INITIAL POST
Chemist
Chemist
PRO MEMBER User since 6/17/01

There is a concerted effort to limit public access to the lakes that they own. In addition, the DNR is no longer enforcing the code that says that lake property owners may not have more than 2 boats docked per 100 feet of frontage.

Last night the Big Cedar Lake Protection and Rehabilitation District vote 3-2 to close the boat launches once all parking spaces were filled.   This is the recording.

The vote is at 14 minutes

They said their ordinance is based upon an ordinance from Pine Lake in Chenequa.

It was also brought up that similar access lawsuit from the Lake Geneva area went to the supreme court where the closing of the boat launches was deemed unconsitutional.  

The fishing public needs to know about these kinds of rules and this is probably a good place to start that discussion.



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8/13/18 @ 4:51 PM
fisheswithU2
User since 4/29/14

I don’t own lake property and am an avid fisherman with a boat. I guess I don’t understand what the issue is. I counted the number of spaces at 1 launch (via google maps) on BC and came up with 40. I have no idea how many other launches there may be. My “home” lake has 25 and is 300 acres bigger than BC. And when the lot is full there’s no street parking. Those are the rules. What’s the issue? Who wants to compete with 100 other anglers? Get up earlier or fish a quieter lake. 

8/13/18 @ 4:25 PM
no-luck
User since 12/14/12

Chemist, looks like they are following WI Statute.  They problem they normally get themselves into is that they will let a buddy/buddies from the audience that support their position make some comments.  If this starts ask them what is happening and why they are allowed to comment and not others form the audience.


Good luck

8/13/18 @ 3:52 PM
Chemist
Chemist
PRO MEMBER User since 6/17/01

Regardless of what anyone tells you the meeting tonight is open to the public.

I was just told by the Town Clerk to bring my speech to the meeting and give it to Town Supervisors. So she would not have done that if the meeting were closed to the public.

The meeting is not a public hearing, you can't speak at it, but you can attend.


8/11/18 @ 7:15 AM
ThinkingMan
User since 7/5/18

The BCLPRD passed the new launch ordinance controlling access at Gonring Dr., Hacker Dr, and Boettcher Dr. without any authority to do so at the 2 town launches - Hacker and Boettcher.  The PRD is now asking the Town of West Bend to give them the authority.  The Town Board plans on passing a resolution giving the PRD authority to close Hacker and Boettcher at a meeting on Monday August 13th .  

TOWN OF WEST BEND TOWN BOARD MEETING AGENDA

6355 CTH Z, WEST BEND, WI 53095

AUGUST 13TH, 2018

Pursuant to the requirements of Wisconsin State Statute Section 19.84, Notice is Hereby given of the regular meeting of the Town Board of the Town of West Bend at the Town Hall, 6355 CTH Z, West Bend, WI 53095 on August 13th, 2018 at 6:30 P.M. This agenda was posted on all 3 posting boards and on our website www.townofwestbend.com.

Call the Meeting to Order

Call of the Meeting

Roll Call

Pledge of Allegiance

Washington County Sheriff Department monthly call review

Approval of Minutes from the July 10th and 20th 2018 meeting

Treasurer’s Report

Review of Bills and Authorization of Payment

Approval of 2 lot CSM - Jeff Spaeth, Daffy Properties LLC CSM- 4463 State Hwy 33 W, West Bend, WI 53095 - Dividing 1 lot into 2 located in Section 17, Township 11 North, Range 19 East (12.29 acres) -Per Plan Commission Recommendation

Adoption Town Transportation Resolution 2018-03

Discussion/Action re: Renting Ordinance

Discussion/Action re: Fleet Farm - access off of Hwy Z

Adopt Resolution 2018-04 authorizing BCLPRD to regulate launch facilities

Discussion/Action re: Cedar Community Boats / CUP

Granting of Bartender Licenses

Discussion re: Fire Calls

Correspondence received by the Board and/or Clerk since the last meeting to be discussed at next month’s meeting.

Adjournment

Dated: August 9, 2018

Julie Ihlenfeld

Clerk


8/8/18 @ 6:42 PM
frenchbrit
frenchbrit
User since 7/24/01

I noticed that bugletrout had his post deleted. Or he deleted himself?

8/8/18 @ 4:28 PM
Tuffy2
User since 7/7/04

Stopped by a small lake today that has a DNR and county launch on it. The lake is under 100 acres and has 8 boat trailer parking places and parking for 10 additional cars, or trucks. So why does the DNR dictate one trailer parking space per twenty-five acres of water on BC?

It seems to me that the DNR needs to come up with a plan to audit the number of lake residents boats. In an earlier post I suggested that they give the property owners stickers for their boats based on the lake frontage that they own.

As long as the lake association controls the parking, that will never be increased, but reducing traffic on the lake will make it much better for those that are awarded a parking place.

8/7/18 @ 12:36 PM
Chemist
Chemist
PRO MEMBER User since 6/17/01

Three new lake patrol officers have been hired, so the shutdown of the launch when the lot is full is almost here.

8/4/18 @ 12:54 PM
Tuffy2
User since 7/7/04

I was just thinking, what about the people who live on the island?   If they come out and want to launch to get out to their house on the island. Will they get right of passage from the commissioner? I think there are three islands with houses on them.

8/2/18 @ 8:26 PM
mattw
mattw
PRO MEMBER User since 5/6/16

Totally agree with you Tuffy2 , myself have known for quite a few years now that you don't go to big cedar on a weekend unless you plan on fishing late in the afternoon when most of the ski and party boats are leaving because of the no wake rule. During the week it's usually not bad at all. But since I rather fish late afternoon to evening hours on most of the lakes I fish , I don't have that many issues . 

8/2/18 @ 7:22 PM
Tuffy2
User since 7/7/04

I drove by the parking lot/launch today. Three vehicles in the lot. Fish during the week and give the lake to the crazies on the weekend. Actually if you think about it, if fishermen don’t take up any of parking places on the weekend, the crazies will fill those thirty-four spots.

7/30/18 @ 11:32 PM
Chemist
Chemist
PRO MEMBER User since 6/17/01

The ordinance and enforcment of it has been posted to the Big Cedar Lake PRD Facebook page. There is room for commentary and you can review the district using facebook. I don't really think they will care, but it's legal and it lets them know how you feel.

But don't litter. It is important that any resistance stays legal. I am also strongly against putting the phone numbers of the commissioners on a public site like this. People can find them online if they need to.  

The passion for lake access is real. It needs to be channeled into positive actions, not negative actions. The person who collected her papers instead of disregarding an officer did the right thing. Save your money, don't get put into a situation where you get a ticket or lose legal standing. Money that would have been spent on tickets could go toward retaining a lawyer.

7/29/18 @ 2:03 PM
Tuffy2
User since 7/7/04

As much as it goes against everything I was taught as a child, in this case just throw them on the ground. They will probably hire someone for $10 a hour to pick them up. LOL

7/29/18 @ 11:11 AM
Chemist
Chemist
PRO MEMBER User since 6/17/01

Apparently it is not legal to put pamphlets on cars windshields at the boat launch, or anywhere else in Wisconsin.

Good information to know. I only wish it was illegal for someone to drive around in a van and throw yellow pages phone books in my ditch 3 times per year!!

7/28/18 @ 8:51 AM
Chemist
Chemist
PRO MEMBER User since 6/17/01

A good approach would be to join the Big Cedar Lake Public Boaters Facebook Page.

On there you can coordinate your efforts on the real plan in place to reverse this.

The lake patrol guys are just doing their jobs, didn't make the rule, and might not even agree with the rule, so whatever you do, don't make their job tougher.

There are proper legal channels that are being explored. The three commissioners opened a big can of worms for themselves and there are some very motivated, and politically connected young folks who have the energy to take them on. Give them your energy and support.

And the commissioners might win. But it won't be because one man's legal opinion thought this was OK.

7/27/18 @ 7:48 AM
Tuffy2
User since 7/7/04

I’m sure that there are many very nice people that have property on BC, however, this is a classic case of how a few people can cast a bad image on all the residents.

I have not fished this lake for years due to the water activities. I really never felt safe there. I agree with Chemist, that the money would be much better spent by policing the water for safety reasons.

In addition to safety issues, I know that the quality of the fishing has really suffered. There used to be beautiful defined weed lines to fish, now you have floating string weeds from the weed cutters all over the lake. The bays where we used to fish the piers are now barren from any weed growth, which has them barren of any fish. My guess is that the property owners either kill off the weeds by poisoning them intentionally, or by run-off from their lawn weed killer.

I would not want to live in close proximity to BC due to the large property taxes. I live in a beautiful area with great views, quiet, and I have five or six lakes that I can have my boat in within less than thirty minutes. During the week there are day’s that I’m the only boat out there.

 They can keep THEIR lake. I think that it would be good for all fishermen to stay off BC on weekends and holidays to leave those parking places for big waterski boats and other fast, noisy, obnoxious people. Give the few of them elites a taste of what they fear the most.

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