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Guys like Ferguson Jenkins would strike out a ton of batters ,give up just a few hits and get that complete game and the win. I know you can remember those classic duels between Ferguson and Gibson.
Chi- Ah yes the good old days.. Have posted about this before but my early baseball years were between the Braves/Brewers timeline, so I was a Cubs fan. We could get WGN telecasts on weekends so I always listened to Jack Brickhouse. Billy Williams will always be one of my favorite MLB players but Fergie was right behind him. Kessinger to Beckert to Banks..double play!!
Chi- Ah yes the good old days.. Have posted about this before but my early baseball years were between the Braves/Brewers timeline, so I was a Cubs fan. We could get WGN telecasts on weekends so I always listened to Jack Brickhouse. Billy Williams will always be one of my favorite MLB players but Fergie was right behind him. Kessinger to Beckert to Banks..double play!!
A coach whether it be the hitting or pitching coach can make adjustments to their technique and the way they mentally prepare, but the player has to be the one that executes.
Agree 100% Z. I think the MLB/Batting Coach position is one the most over-rated/hyped coach position in all of sports. Don't have any clue who the Brewers have this year. I know we had two coaches last year and over the years folks just complain about that position when the team is not hitting. Yes, they can make some insightful suggestions on swing changes etc but with technology players can look at each at bat and breakdown their own issues. Heck many of the top players have their own coaches they work with thru the whole season. Players still need to execute!!
Agree 100% Z. I think the MLB/Batting Coach position is one the most over-rated/hyped coach position in all of sports. Don't have any clue who the Brewers have this year. I know we had two coaches last year and over the years folks just complain about that position when the team is not hitting. Yes, they can make some insightful suggestions on swing changes etc but with technology players can look at each at bat and breakdown their own issues. Heck many of the top players have their own coaches they work with thru the whole season. Players still need to execute!!
As I said, it’s not an exact science. It only serves as a guide to assure that a pitcher doesn’t put undue strain on their arm and can help them be more effective in their next outing. I don’t necessarily agree that they should pull a pitcher at a predetermined number of pitches, but it is what the majority of teams do. With the numbers of pitchers that most teams carry it wouldn’t seem like it would matter, but that’s not what teams are doing.
https://journals.lww.com/nsca-jscr/FullText/2012/05000/The_Impact_of_Pitch_Counts_and_Days_of_Rest_on.2.aspx
https://journals.lww.com/nsca-jscr/FullText/2012/05000/The_Impact_of_Pitch_Counts_and_Days_of_Rest_on.2.aspx
Was gone the whole long weekend, came back from camping and not overly surprised with the results. Good starting pitching overall and low run production. My thoughts.
Would like PCA up-able to steal, bunt, fundamentals. Plays hard every day too and can hit the long ball.
Consistent line up isn't possible with so many injuries and trying to get offense anywhere.
Would like Morel out of the 4 spot til he can prove consistency. Move him to the 7 spot.
Hard to blame the pen when you can't put up runs in the first 5 innings lately.
We have some players that are due to be hot. I expect we put up 6 runs in one game against the brewers this series. You heard it here first.
Would like PCA up-able to steal, bunt, fundamentals. Plays hard every day too and can hit the long ball.
Consistent line up isn't possible with so many injuries and trying to get offense anywhere.
Would like Morel out of the 4 spot til he can prove consistency. Move him to the 7 spot.
Hard to blame the pen when you can't put up runs in the first 5 innings lately.
We have some players that are due to be hot. I expect we put up 6 runs in one game against the brewers this series. You heard it here first.
Carpio…Freddie doesn’t scare anyone. He got roughed up quickly by the Cubs in the first series and I don’t think the Cubs have much to worry about. It should be a good game with Brown and Peralta going at it.
The pitch count thing is here to stay. The days of seeing a starter go 9 innings every outing is gone. The only way you’ll see it nowadays is if their pitch count is low or they have a no hitter on the line. Even with a no hitter going, they probably wouldn’t pitch much farther than their average pitch count.
The whole pitch count thing is a result of the data gathered from each pitcher’s performance. At some point the effectiveness of every pitcher drops off. This is not an exact science, but the numbers show where this happens with every pitcher.
The pitch count thing is here to stay. The days of seeing a starter go 9 innings every outing is gone. The only way you’ll see it nowadays is if their pitch count is low or they have a no hitter on the line. Even with a no hitter going, they probably wouldn’t pitch much farther than their average pitch count.
The whole pitch count thing is a result of the data gathered from each pitcher’s performance. At some point the effectiveness of every pitcher drops off. This is not an exact science, but the numbers show where this happens with every pitcher.
Chitown…I agree that Happ can sting the ball. A couple of games ago he was responsible for producing the only 3 runs with a solo HR and a 2 run HR. Suzuki has to be more aggressive to start his at bats. He tends to be in defensive mode when he should be in an aggressive one.
I don’t think Wisdom gets enough at bats to be a consistent hitter. He’s another one that can scald the ball when he makes contact, but that’s not an easy task when you don’t see that many pitches.
Morel is a work in progress. He’s done much better this season with making contact, but the pitchers have figured out how to pitch to him and he hasn’t been as consistent lately.
I don’t think Wisdom gets enough at bats to be a consistent hitter. He’s another one that can scald the ball when he makes contact, but that’s not an easy task when you don’t see that many pitches.
Morel is a work in progress. He’s done much better this season with making contact, but the pitchers have figured out how to pitch to him and he hasn’t been as consistent lately.
Carpio,I too don't like this modern day baseball statagies. I also can remember when a pitcher if he was on ,got his complete game and the win. Guys like Ferguson Jenkins would strike out a ton of batters ,give up just a few hits and get that complete game and the win. I know you can remember those classic duels between Ferguson and Gibson. Those were classic battles and don't think you'll ever see the likes of those games again and they never lasted it seems like just 2 hrs. Okay i'm done preaching. LOL!!
Z-Man I agree with you 100%. Happ can sting the ball! We need Susuki to get back on track also. He's in some kind of a slump also. The guys that irk me the most is Wisdom and Morel. Those two either stfike out on lousy pitchs or hit a weak grounder or pop-up. Those two IMO definatley need more "plate disipline"
Hockeyguy…The Cubs starter Steele pitched one more inning than Gasser did for the Brewers. Steele pitched 7 innings giving up 0 runs, 3 hits and had 8 strikeouts. He was up to 93 pitches when he was replaced to start the eighth. In comparison, Gasser was at 81 pitches when he was pulled after 6 innings.
Happ has a lifetime average of .247. Being able to hit from both sides of the plate and being a gold glove fielder is why he is a regular in the Cubs lineup.
Happ has a lifetime average of .247. Being able to hit from both sides of the plate and being a gold glove fielder is why he is a regular in the Cubs lineup.
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