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12/20/01 @ 11:26 AM
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Esox23
User since 10/31/01
 Chicago Cubs.. Where do we start
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TODAY @ 5:20 PM
kona77
User since 6/20/13
Guys like Ferguson Jenkins  would strike out a ton of batters ,give up just a few hits and get that complete game and the win. I know you can remember those classic duels between Ferguson and  Gibson.

 Chi-  Ah yes the good old days.. Have posted about this before but my early baseball years were between the Braves/Brewers timeline, so I was a Cubs fan. We could get WGN telecasts on weekends so I always listened to Jack Brickhouse. Billy Williams will always be one of my favorite MLB players but Fergie was right behind him.  Kessinger to Beckert to Banks..double play!!    
TODAY @ 5:08 PM
kona77
User since 6/20/13
A coach whether it be the hitting or pitching coach can make adjustments to their technique and the way they mentally prepare, but the player has to be the one that executes.

Agree 100% Z.  I think the MLB/Batting Coach position is one the most over-rated/hyped coach position in all of sports. Don't have any clue who the Brewers have this year. I know we had two coaches last year and over the years folks just complain about that position when the team is not hitting. Yes, they can make some insightful suggestions on swing changes etc but with technology players can look at each at bat and breakdown their own issues. Heck many of the top players have their own coaches they work with thru the whole season. Players still need to execute!!   
TODAY @ 12:13 PM
Zmaniac
Zmaniac
PRO MEMBER User since 2/8/06
As I said, it’s not an exact science. It only serves as a guide to assure that a pitcher doesn’t put undue strain on their arm and can help them be more effective in their next outing. I don’t necessarily agree that they should pull a pitcher at a predetermined number of pitches, but it is what the majority of teams do. With the numbers of pitchers that most teams carry it wouldn’t seem like it would matter, but that’s not what teams are doing.

https://journals.lww.com/nsca-jscr/FullText/2012/05000/The_Impact_of_Pitch_Counts_and_Days_of_Rest_on.2.aspx
TODAY @ 11:50 AM
Gillespie
User since 2/6/19
Because of pitch counts, pitchers no longer have the arm strength to throw as many pitches or as long in a game and therefore they are less and less effective.They don't have the strength and endurance, and they're more prone to injury.  It's not a good brand of baseball.
TODAY @ 11:46 AM
Fishlove
User since 4/6/24
All in all the Brewers had only one more hit than the Cubs! Guess that is important to "some" fans!  
Thinking Adames is becoming the new Cub killer both defensively and offensively, replacing Braun!
TODAY @ 11:39 AM
Gillespie
User since 2/6/19
The pitch count and the stats on effectiveness are a self-fulfilling prophecy.  The less pitches you throw the less effective you are and the less pitches you'll throw in your next outing.  If you don't believe me, listen to Nolan Ryan and Roger Clemens.
TODAY @ 10:20 AM
IceFishBaby
User since 11/26/01
Was gone the whole long weekend, came back from camping and not overly surprised with the results.  Good starting pitching overall and low run production.  My thoughts.
Would like PCA up-able to steal, bunt, fundamentals.  Plays hard every day too and can hit the long ball.
Consistent line up isn't possible with so many injuries and trying to get offense anywhere.  
Would like Morel out of the 4 spot til he can prove consistency.  Move him to the 7 spot.
Hard to blame the pen when you can't put up runs in the first 5 innings lately. 
We have some players that are due to be hot.  I expect we put up 6 runs in one game against the brewers this series.  You heard it here first.
TODAY @ 10:18 AM
Zmaniac
Zmaniac
PRO MEMBER User since 2/8/06
Carpio…Freddie doesn’t scare anyone. He got roughed up quickly by the Cubs in the first series and I don’t think the Cubs have much to worry about. It should be a good game with Brown and Peralta going at it.

The pitch count thing is here to stay. The days of seeing a starter go 9 innings every outing is gone. The only way you’ll see it nowadays is if their pitch count is low or they have a no hitter on the line. Even with a no hitter going, they probably wouldn’t pitch much farther than their average pitch count.
The whole pitch count thing is a result of the data gathered from each pitcher’s performance. At some point the effectiveness of every pitcher drops off. This is not an exact science, but the numbers show where this happens with every pitcher. 
TODAY @ 10:05 AM
chitowncrappieman
chitowncrappieman
PRO MEMBER User since 3/4/06
Yea Peralta is tough no question about that. Just got to try and get the job done early and often aganist that guy.
TODAY @ 10:05 AM
Zmaniac
Zmaniac
PRO MEMBER User since 2/8/06
Chitown…I agree that Happ can sting the ball. A couple of games ago he was responsible for producing the only 3 runs with a solo HR and a 2 run HR. Suzuki has to be more aggressive to start his at bats. He tends to be in defensive mode when he should be in an aggressive one.
I don’t think Wisdom gets enough at bats to be a consistent hitter. He’s another one that can scald the ball when he makes contact, but that’s not an easy task when you don’t see that many pitches. 
Morel is a work in progress. He’s done much better this season with making contact, but the pitchers have figured out how to pitch to him and he hasn’t been as consistent lately. 

TODAY @ 10:03 AM
Carpio
Carpio
PRO MEMBER User since 11/5/17
Bring your A game boys!    Freddie is going this evening   
TODAY @ 10:02 AM
chitowncrappieman
chitowncrappieman
PRO MEMBER User since 3/4/06
Carpio,I too don't like this modern day baseball statagies. I also can remember when a pitcher if he was on ,got his complete game and the win. Guys like Ferguson Jenkins  would strike out a ton of batters ,give up just a few hits and get that complete game and the win. I know you can remember those classic duels between Ferguson and  Gibson. Those were classic battles and don't think you'll ever see the likes of those games again and they never lasted it seems like just 2 hrs.  Okay i'm done preaching. LOL!!
TODAY @ 9:54 AM
chitowncrappieman
chitowncrappieman
PRO MEMBER User since 3/4/06
Z-Man I agree with you 100%. Happ can sting the ball! We need Susuki to get back on track also. He's in some kind of a slump also. The guys that irk me the most is Wisdom and Morel. Those two either stfike out  on lousy pitchs or hit a weak grounder or pop-up. Those two IMO definatley need more "plate disipline"
TODAY @ 9:38 AM
Zmaniac
Zmaniac
PRO MEMBER User since 2/8/06
Hockeyguy…The Cubs starter Steele pitched one more inning than Gasser did for the Brewers. Steele pitched 7 innings giving up 0 runs, 3 hits and had 8 strikeouts. He was up to 93 pitches when he was replaced to start the eighth. In comparison, Gasser was at 81 pitches when he was pulled after 6 innings.
Happ has a lifetime average of .247. Being able to hit from both sides of the plate and being a gold glove fielder is why he is a regular in the Cubs lineup. 
10/13/22 @ 5:26 PM
Carpio
Carpio
PRO MEMBER User since 11/5/17
Pulling the starter early although he was pitching well was my only gripe against CC when he was managing the Brewers.  Too many times that decision came back to bite him.   I’m not a fan of the pitch count at all!   
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